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Interacting with skeptics of the system

This came out in a group discussion about someone struggling to get why and how HD is supposedly linked to neutrinos or astrology. The person asking for answers or resources to give that person, sensing he was experiencing some understandable disbelief and couldn’t get over it because he was missing some crucial answers.

Here’s some of what came out of me.

You know… when transmitting HD, I’d say it’s essential to be ready to meet disbelief without trying to change it unless it’s really correct for us. Now, I don’t know, maybe you’re like an energy being, a 1st line from Q1 with Desire motivation and with a defined ego and head or something. That would make you possibly well suited to be led to look for more of those crumbs of links or “proofs”.

In my experience not being those things at all though, it’s much more powerful when I allow them to struggle on their own rather than pressuring me to give them answers we simply can’t give them.

I’ve noticed with my undefined head and open ego and other pieces of my design, there’s always a part of me that’s ready to work harder than skeptics by attempting to answer their questions. Mindy wants so badly to give them the proofs they say they need. But I’ve noticed over the years : they always have more questions, the answers are never enough. And I’m suspecting more and more : their resistance is usually a tell they’re not ready more than anything else.

Skepticism is not about having the right info, it’s about fractals

It’s much more successful for me to accept skepticism is not a matter of having the right info, but of fractal. The people going beyond the disbelief, we’re meant to do so. The ones who don’t go beyond it could have all the proof in the world, it just wouldn’t be on heir path to not use mental reasons to not try and see without another authority telling them they should indeed trust it. They don’t do it on purpose. They’re not lacking anything. It just doesn’t get to their core, and heir mind explain it by not having the right answers allowing them to believe.

But the thing is… There’s no actual risk. There’s no belief as a prerequisite. It’s not because they’re saying that lack of answers is why it “doesn’t go in” that it’s actually what’s happening. Mindy doesn’t actually know why we resist things, it just invents reasons.

Letting skepticism be

I’m really not saying anyone shouldnt have doubt or questioning the system of course here, it’s weird as fuck. 😂 Anyone living in our world has “reasons” to doubt it. And a strong conditioning to look for proof. I’m saying there’s another way to look at it while allowing the understandable skepticism to be here.

We actually don’t even need to try or to believe, it happens or not. We can hold on to all the doubt we want, it’ll dissolve anyway if it’s meant to, and we may believe in some pieces so so hard, if it isn’t meant to happen, it won’t. Trust me (maybe?) : I really, really, REALLY didn’t want to believe and still am not mentally fully ok with HD having so much room in my life… And still, here we fucking are. To the utter non-delight of my mind 🙄😂

There is no outside proof for the system

Also… If they’re looking for actual proof HD is true through another system, they won’t find it.

The only true link with astrology I heard him define is that the astrological signs are in the Rave mandala and that HD acknowledges that planets have an effect on us. That’s it. He said “the only way HD and astrology intersect” or something to that effect.

The links with scientific disciplines are not straight forward at all. The “scientific” side of HD, coming from someone who studied science through lots of forms all through university, is frankly quite weak.

I don’t even mention it to people, it’s honestly embarrassing that “HD sciences” thought that creating charts was proving anything for example (the only “study” I could find that was published). What the fuck does it prove to produce charts based on the premise the system is true?? Maybe I’m missing some kind of point but I find it really dumb and like it’s actually discrediting any attempt to call HD a science at all. 🙄

This is more of something called “anecdotal evidence” : you either experience it as true for you, or you don’t. And anecdotal evidence isn’t here to prove anything but to formulate hypothesis. More questions. Not answers. (Saying this makes me burn to say way more about how much it’s dangerous to confuse experiential truth and logical truth and any of those as universal truth, but that’d be for another day, and another place 😂)

Ra did say from 1988 that neutrinos had mass without being a scientist himself not even really versed in physics, which was only proven scientifically like 15 years later (the voice supposedly gave that to him as a way to prove he wasn’t completely bonkers). I guess that’s something.

The way neutrinos behave in relationship to the celestial bodies is supposedly describing the ways he described the celestial bodies’ influence, not astrology. My body didn’t allow me to look that up more, to find out if some scientists would agree, except for bumping into something about Uranus having neutrinos behaving really unusually compared to other planets. But no person with a true scientific mind will be satisfied with such stuff as proof of the validity of the system from what I know or observed.

Allowing them to not get answers and myself to not have them

I have also noticed lots of those skeptical people will never even get to experiment with their Strategy and Authority if they get stuck on those questions. I often tell them “I know it’d be more comfortable to have proof, I can’t give any to you, despite my mind wishing I could. I can give you some resources that’ll inform you more, but nothing that will prove you it’s trustworthy or not. It’s very understandable you’re skeptical. I actually wish everyone wouldn’t do anything they experience as incorrect for them. If it’s really for you, at some point, you won’t need those answers, you’ll get to just see for yourself. If not, well, you won’t. This is not something we need to believe in for it to happen.”.

I find so much relaxation in letting people have their own journey and see what happens to some of them. And even more in not trying to convince anyone, or prove anything. To accept slowly this happened to me, it might never be understood and always critiqued by some people, it doesn’t matter. It’s true for me. Not as an unshakeable unquestionable truth (that’s what the mind is looking when it looks for “proof”), but as the weird way I’m now experiencing life. Maybe I’m delusional. Maybe I’ll bitterly regret it at some point when it’ll come slapping me in the face. It’s not like I can do anything but admit I never had any choice. HD “kidnapped” me, changed my life, probably forever. The rest : I don’t know.

Good luck dealing with your own skeptics, bisous 😘